美国为啥不为朝鲜战争道歉?美国网民:凭啥?

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为什么不是中国为朝鲜战争道歉呢?因为你知道正是因为中国对朝鲜的帮助,才造就了今天的局面

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Why has the U.S. never apologized for the Korean War?

为什么美国从来没有为朝鲜战争道歉?

美国为啥不为朝鲜战争道歉?美国网民:凭啥?



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1、Steve Cole upxed Apr 6 2018 · Author has 155 answers and 364.7k answer views
Why.. why would they?
The war was started when North Korea invaded South Korea in an attempt to unify the Korean Peninsula.

为什么呢….美国人为什么需要那么做呢?这场战争始于朝鲜入侵韩国企图统一整个朝鲜半岛的时候。

The US along with a pile of other nations decided to support the South under the banner of the UN. This is something important you’re forgetting – not only did the US not start the war they didn’t even decide to respond to it independently – the UN Security Council voted on whether or not it’s member nations should enter the war.

而美国和其他许多国家则是在联合国的决议下支持韩国的。你忘掉的一件很重要的事情——是美国不仅没有主动发起战争,而且也没有私自出兵干涉——联合国安理会还就是否出兵参战这一问题进行了投票表决。

Since Communist China wasn’t on the council at the time (that position being held by the “other” China the Republic which you might know better as Taiwan) and the USSR abstained from voting it was as far as I recall a unanimous “yes” vote from all member nations.

由于GC主义中国当时不在安理会(这个立场是由“另一个”中国——你可能更了解的那个中华民国台湾所支持的),苏联投了弃权票,据我所知,当时的表决结果是所有成员国都一致同意“参战”。

The US was easily the largest contributor of material and troops but that’s because it’s the US not just because they were diametrically opposed to communism at the time. They simply have a lot more of those kinds of things than any other nation even back in those days and the willingness to use them. This was probably in no small part due to a desire to send a message to the USSR and to test out the capabilities of their shiny post-WWII military which included new never before fielded gear such as helicopters.

美国毋庸置疑成为了这场战争中最大的物资和军队出资国,但那是因为当时的美国不仅仅是强烈反对GC主义的中坚力量,而且他们还拥有比任何其他国家都更多的这类资源,并且他们也非常愿意在那场战争中使用它们。这在很大程度上可能是因为他们想向苏联传达某种信号(即:我很强,别惹我),并测试他们二战后的军事力量,其中包括直升机等前所未有的新装备。

Admittedly the US is as far as I know the only UN nation which is still present in South Korea and ready to fight if need be so it’s not so much a NK vs. the UN situation these days. But it’s not like there’s no precedent for being there and prepared since the North hasn’t really stopped making aggressive overtures since the initial attack that started the whole mess in the first place.

不可否认的是,据我所知,美国是目前唯一一个还在韩国驻军,并且在需要的情况下,随时准备参加战斗的联合国成员国。所以,这与其说是朝鲜与美国之间的对抗,不如说是朝鲜与联合国之间的对抗。但这并不是没有先例的,因为自从当年的入侵开始以来,朝鲜就没有停止过积极挑衅的好斗姿态。

So yeah. Not too sure why they’d have to. If anyone should apologize it should be North Korea for starting things or *maybe* China for propping up the North and encouraging them to do it though that’s easier to say with the hindsight of seeing how North Korea turned out – I don’t think they would have if they’d realized what a mess it would turn into. If the latter hadn’t happened though there might only be one Korea right now and everyone including the Chinese the Koreans the Japanese the US Russia etc. etc. would probably be better off for it.

所以,是的。我不太清楚美国人为什么需要这么做。如果真的有人应该为此道歉的话,我认为应该是朝鲜,他们应该为自己挑起战争的所作所为道歉;亦或者是中国,他们应该为支持朝鲜并鼓励他们发起战争道歉,毕竟大家都见证了朝鲜后来的情况——我不认为中国会那么做,如果他们意识到将会变得这么糟糕。当然了,如果没有中国干涉,现在半岛上可能只有一个韩国,那么,每个人都包括中国人、韩国人、日本人、美国人、俄罗斯人等所有人都将可能因此受益。


2、Ronald Kimmons Entrepreneur (2009-present) upxed Apr 13 2018 · Author has 5.5k answers and 7m answer views
Why hasn’t China apologized for the Korean War? Because you know China helped to create this:
That sea of black between South Korea and China is North Korea.
Not only did South Korea ask the USA to intervene in the Korean War but South Koreans honor Americans killed in that war to this day. Because they realize what their country would be like if they had been ruled by the Kim regime.

为什么不是中国为朝鲜战争道歉呢?因为你知道正是因为中国对朝鲜的帮助,才造就了今天的局面——朝韩对峙。韩国和中国之间的最大问题也就是朝鲜。况且,美国的参战正是因为韩国方面的请求,而且直到今天,韩国人还在向那场战争中牺牲的美国人致敬,那是因为他们意识到如果他们被金家王朝的政权统治所统治,他们的国家将会变得多么糟糕。


3、John Cate U.S. citizen my whole life. Lived here for 41 of my 43 years (as of 2016). Answered Apr 4 2018 · Author has 5.7k answers and 26.9m answer views
Because countries generally don’t apologize for their actions when they are asked to assist a sovereign nation which has been invaded by a foreign power.
The United States intervened in the Korean Conflict at the request of the government of South Korea and our intervention was even officially sanctioned by the United Nations.
If anyone should apologize for the war it should be North Korea who started it.

因为当一个国家被请求出手帮助一个被国外势力侵略的主权国家时,它是不会为自己的行为道歉的。美国在南韩政府的请求下介入半岛冲突,我们的干预甚至得到联合国的批准。如果有人要为这场战争道歉的话,那应该是发动这场战争的北朝鲜。


4、Keith Leon former Retired engineer and Vietnam combat veteran Answered Apr 4 2018
Interesting question. Let’s see now North Korea attacked the south without provocation. The United Nations voted to intervene and the US as well as many other countries came to the rescue. McArthur in his arrogance underestimated the Chinese and paid a steep price. That was the quick and dirty condensed version. Now I am confused. What did we do that deserves an apology?

有趣的问题。让我们来设想下朝鲜在没有挑衅的前提下袭击了南韩的结果。联合国通过投票表决的方式决定干预,美国及其他许多国家都前来支援。傲慢的麦克阿瑟低估了中国,并为此付出惨烈的代价。那是一个草率且卑鄙的狭隘角度。现在我很困惑。我们做了什么,为什么要我们道歉?


5、Alexander Johnson Has been to over 28 different countries upxed Apr 13 2018
Because South Korea asked the U.S. for help.
As a South Korean I can proudly say that the U.S. saved our asses twice once from Japan and once from North Korea. The U.S. has helped our country tremendously and most of us Koreans are grateful for their help in the Korean War.

因为南韩向美国求助。作为一名韩国人,我可以自豪地说,美国曾两次在穷途末路时拯救了我们,一次是日本侵略,另一次是北朝鲜侵入。美国给予我们国家很大的帮助,大多数韩国人感激美国在朝鲜战争中所做的一切。

The U.S. did nothing to incite the Korean War but still helped us nonetheless. Us Koreans are the ones thanking them.

美国没有煽动朝鲜战争却仍然帮助我们。我们韩国人对美国人是心怀感谢的。


6、Joseph Admire Disenchanted old-line conservative Republican Answered Apr 4 2018 · Author has 1.3k answers and 590.1k answer views
If anything the U.S. probably ought to apologize to the ROK for screwing up and declaring Korea to be outside the U.S.’ Pacific defensive perimeter (not to mention posting a pitifully small number of troops in the ROK); this is often thought to be a factor in Stalin’s giving the go-ahead for Kim Il-sung to head south in June 1950.

如果要道歉也应该是美国向我们大韩民国道歉,因为美国搞砸了,并且还宣布韩国不在美国的太平洋防御范围内(更别说在韩国派驻小型军队了)。这普遍被认为是斯大林在1950年6月让金日成南下的原因。


7、Ray Nieves Have a masters degree. Served in USAFR In health care Answered Apr 5 2018 · Author has 1.7k answers and 2.5m answer views
TROLL alx!!!! another troll question designed to provoke arguments and anger…
Some good answers here.

巨魔阿拉希!另一个被设计用来挑起争论和愤怒的钓鱼问题……我这儿有一些好的答案。

The UN (not just the US) acted after declaring the NKs invasion as criminal and an act of war rushing to aid the beleaguered SK in forcing the NKs back across their boarder.
Let me ask you this troll; if criminals breaks into your home with the intention of harming you and your family then taking over the house while heavily armed…and the Police come along and fights them eventually throwing them out of your home returning your home and property to you…

联合国(不止是美国)在宣布朝鲜的入侵之举为犯罪,是战争行为时急着去救助被困的韩国以迫使朝鲜退回其国界。

让我来问你一个钓鱼问题;如果一个持枪歹徒闯入你家,企图伤害你和你的家人,然后接管你的房子……这时警察来了,和他们打了一架,并把他们赶出你家,把你的财产和房子还给了你……


8、Paul Bjornson Answered Apr 14 2018
The only thing the U.S. ought to apologize for is (a) not including South Korea in the defensive perimeter convincing Stalin to give Kim the go-ahead to start a war and (b) not having a plan in place from the get-go to repel a Chinese offensive from the Korean-Chinese border.

美国该道歉的原因有以下几点:(a)没有把韩国纳入其防御圈内,这让斯大林驱使金先生发动战争;(b)没有制定计划并击退中朝边境的中国进攻。

Had the latter been in place and the demarcation line fell along the Yalu River or even the Pyongyang-Wonsan line at the neck of the peninsula a lot more people would be living a capitalist liberal democracy today instead of in a socialist hellhole.

如果后者在鸭绿江沿岸甚至是朝鲜半岛颈部的三八线按时到位,更多人将会生活在资本主义自由民主制度中,而不是在社会主义地狱里。


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