中印空军谁更强?美国网民:毫无疑问是印度!

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毫无疑问,印度空军更强大。因为中国空军缺乏实际的经验和现代战争指挥系统,综合战斗实力不如印度空军

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Who is more poweful in airforce India or China and how?

谁的空军更强,印度还是中国?

中印空军谁更强?美国网民:毫无疑问是印度!



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Sterling Saini, Read several libraries of non fiction
Updated May 10
India is more powerful in airforce, although, they are only marginally better. Even though China have more planes, most are ageing soviet era models, and even the planes that aren’t are still technologically inferior to the Indian ones.
China has roughly 1200 fighter jets. That’s a large number of fighter jets, until you realise that about 588-720 of them are these:
As you can see, majority of these jets are aging copies of jets from the 70’s. And even the planes that aren’t this have their own massive problems.
Such as this J-20, which doesn’t have a proper engine, and is only stealthy from the front!
India have half as many jets, about 650, but with the exception of a few Mig 21, all are modern, and some are arguably the best fighters on Earth.
Consider this jet: The mainstay of the IAF, the Su-30 MKI
It can engage 6 enemy jets at once, track 15, is supermaneuverable with 3D vector thrust, and is arguably the best fighter to fly Asian skies.
In fairness, China are making advanced in their jet technology – but this tech is still not as advanced as the Indian tech. I’m not saying Chinese jets are terrible, or that all of them are outdated. Just that the Indian jets are better
Still though, you could argue that China’s sheer number advantage could mean that they are better.
So who is more powerful? In terms of who is better? I would say India, because they have better jets. But still, you wouldn’t be crazy to think otherwise.
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印度空军更强大,但是没有强大很多。虽然中国飞机数量更多,但大部分都是老旧的苏联时期款式,而那些不是老式的苏联机,在技术上也不及印度。

中国拥有约1200架战机。这是个庞大的数量,但是有大约588-720架是这样的:
正如你所见,大部分的这些战机都是70年代的老旧战机。即使不是这样的,也存在着一些严重的问题。

比如J20,没有一个好引擎,而且只有前面部分是隐形的。
印度战机差不多是中国的一半,大约650架,但是除了一些米格21,其余都是现代战机,有些可以说是世界上最好的战机了。

比如这款:印度空军的支柱,苏30MKI。
一次可以与6架敌机交战,追踪15架飞机,3D矢量推力,机动性超强,可以说是亚洲最好的战机了。

公平的说,中国在飞机技术方面有所进步,但是还是没有印度先进。我不是说中国战机很烂,也不是说所有战机都是过时的。只不过印度战机更好罢了。
但是从数量来看,你可以说中国空军更好。

所以谁更强大?谁更好?我觉得是印度,他们印度拥有更好的战机。但是你要说中国空军更强大、更好,我也没意见。


Devarshi Fadia
Answered Apr 26
The Chinese Airforce is extremely superior to the Indian Airforce on paper. Their jet numbers dwarf IAF numbers and now also have two FGFA (Chengdu and Shenyang). Most of PLAAF planes are outdated but usable while their new entrants are better than anything IAF has.
But, Indian Airforce Pilots have a more rigorous and training and stringent requirements compared to the Chinese. Also, while China has hardly seen a war, India has regular training and experience with Pakistan’s mischief. Problem is our selection system for buying new planes and lack of technical manufacturing knowhow (evident in manufacturing Tejas). Even Dassault Rafale and Saab Gripen (coming to IAF soon through Adani Saab collabration) are no match for FGFA from PLAAF but an able IAF pilot can reduce that advantage.
In case a war happens, the results can tilt towards the country with a better strategy. It is obvious that in such a circumstance, Pakistan would also attack India and contrary to what our leaders say, a two prong war will be disastrous for India. Such a war will completely destroy huge populations on both sides and also rout their economies.
PS: War cries are a thing of the past and only Pakistan indulges in such kid whines. India and China are not going to war anytime soon as both mature economies have a lot to lose.
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在纸面上,中国空军比印度空军强大很多。他们飞机数量超过印度空军,而且拥有两个隐形战机项目(成都和沈阳)。大部分的解放军军机都过时了,但还可以用,而新的中国战机比印度空军的好。

但是,和中国相比,印度空军飞行员的训练更加严格,要求更加苛刻。而且,中国几乎没有战争经验,而印度经常和巴基斯坦练手。问题出在我们新飞机的采购上,还有就是缺乏制造技术(比如光辉战机项目)。即使是阵风和鹰狮战机也无法对抗解放军的隐形战机,但是技术精湛的印度飞行员可以削减劣势。

一旦发生战争,哪个国家拥有更好的战略就可能占优势。显然在这种情况下,巴基斯坦会攻击印度,同时应对两个国家对印度来说是灾难性的。这样的战争将对双边的人口造成巨大的摧毁,同时摧毁经济。

PS:战争咆哮已经成为历史,只有巴基斯坦这样的国家才沉迷于这种幼稚行为。印度和中国不会走向战争,因为二者成熟的经济会在战争中遭受巨大损失。


Daidai Clever, former 2nd Battalion Commander enjoying spaghetti (2013-2016)
Updated Apr 29
That is no doubt that Indian is more powerful.
Bcz the Chinese air force lacks practical experience and modern war command system, the comprehensive combat power is not as good as the India air force.The performance of China’s domestic equipment is not reliable and is not enough to fear.For example,China’s the most advanced fighter J20 known as the fifth generation stealth fighter , India relies on existing radar and can find him in serval kilometres very easily.
Before 2025, the India air force will have 120 Rafale fighters, 200 Su -30MKI and 150 T-50 fighters. The future India air force can defeat any enemy( including Pakistan and China)in the airspace around India in 3 to 7 days.
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毫无疑问,印度空军更强大。因为中国空军缺乏实际的经验和现代战争指挥系统,综合战斗实力不如印度空军。中国国产设备的性能不可靠,不足为惧。比如中国最先进战机J20作为五代隐形战机,印度可以轻易的通过现有雷达在几公里的距离外发现它。

2025年之前,印度空军将拥有120架阵风战机,200架苏30MKI,150架T50。未来的印度空军可以在3-7天时间里在印度周围空域击败任何敌人(包括巴基斯坦和中国)。


Cliff Benton, former Retired
Answered Apr 25
"Who is more poweful in airforce India or China and how?"
Some of the information seems a little out of date. The Chinese have a lot of J-7’s PLAAF they also have 
"Chengdu J-10 China multirole 236
Shenyang J-11 China air superiority 276 
Sukhoi Su-30 Russia air superiority Su-30MKK 76 
Sukhoi Su-35 Russia air superiority Su-35S 24 
Xian JH-7 China fighter bomber 70
I don’t think India has any strategic bombers like
Xian H-6 China strategic bomber 120
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有些信息貌似过时了。中国有很多J7,解放军还拥有:
成都J10, 236架
沈阳J11, 276架
苏30MKK,76架
苏35S, 24架
西安 JH7 战斗轰炸机, 70架
我不觉得印度拥有类似的战略轰炸机,比如
西安H6战略轰炸机, 120架


Ayush Chaudhary, Technical Consultant at CTModule AG (2015-present)
Answered Apr 27
I am an Indian and to be very specific I will say “China”
They have Bombers and J-10 next generation stealth fighter plane. India is also not weak but for sure it’s China in all way like Airforce, Navy, Land Army.
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我是印度人,我觉得是中国。
他们拥有轰炸机和J10,新一代隐形战斗机。印度也不弱,但是空军,海军和陆军都是中国强。


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