中国警告日本不要误导年轻人,日本网民纷纷反击

译文摘要:


中国是最没有资格讨论别的国家教科书应该有什么的国家

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原文地址:https://www.japantoday.com

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BEIJING —China warned Japan on Friday against misleading its future generations with a “wrong view of history” after officials in Tokyo finished authorizing textbooks to be used in the 2018 school year.

在东京官员完成了对于2018学年度教科书授权后,周五,中国警告日本不要用“错误的历史观”来误导日本的下一代。

中国警告日本不要误导年轻人,日本网民纷纷反击

Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying criticized Japanese government officials for trying to downplay or modify the number of Chinese victims in the 1937 Nanjing Massacre.

外交部发言人华春莹指责日本政府官员试图减少或者修改1937年南京大屠杀的中国遇难者人数。

Hua made the comments during a press briefing when asked about what China thinks of Japanese high school textbooks to be used from April 2018 that continue to say that there is not yet a commonly accepted view of the number.

在新闻发布会上,在被问及中国如何看待2018年4月份开始使用的教科书中认为遇难者数字还没达成普遍接受的观点时,华春莹作出了此评论。

She said the world already has solid evidence on the massacre and urged Japan to be more responsible in providing a “correct” picture of its wartime history to students for the better future of their relations with China and other Asian countries.

她说国际社会已对南京大屠杀的确凿证据有公认并敦促日本能够更负责的提供一个“准确的”日本战时的情况给学生们,从而让他们与中国和亚洲其他国家在未来拥有更好的关系。


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YubaruMAR. 25 2017 – 06:45AM JST
It’s that time of year already? Pot-kettle-black season came earlier this year than last!

已经到了一年中的那个时候了吗?今年五十步笑百步的剧情比去年早!


OssanAmericaMAR. 25 2017 – 07:02AM JST
China is the last country to be talking about what goes into another countries’ textbook.

中国是最没有资格讨论别的国家教科书应该有什么的国家。


SchopenhauerMAR. 25 2017 – 07:09AM JST
If China brags about their power wealth and glory today I recommend they do not disclose their miserable and humiliating modern history. It will hurt their pride.

如果今天中国要吹嘘自己的实力财富和荣誉,我建议他们不要公开自己悲惨和耻辱的近代史。这会伤害到他们的自尊心。


thepersoniamnowMAR. 25 2017 – 07:24AM JST
Ok it’s true from one POV. Point taken.

好吧 从一个角度来说也是事实。同意

Point forgotten

被遗忘的一点


Haaa NemuiMAR. 25 2017 – 07:29AM JST
Last line of this article is hugely important.

文章的最后一句极其重要


joyridingonthetitanicMAR. 25 2017 – 07:45AM JST
Pure hipocracy from China again! When China adds to its own school textbooks the truth about the Cultural Revolution and the Tianamman Square protests then and only then can it lecture others on what it can and cannot put in their own books!

中国又一次赤裸裸的伪善!只有当中国在自己的教科书里加入文化大革命和TAM事件的真相后,中国才能去教育其他人什么能和不能加入自己的教科书。


Ola JohanssonMAR. 25 2017 – 07:53AM JST
And how many died in China during the Culture Revolution?

又有多少人死在文化大革命里?


Mike LMAR. 25 2017 – 08:39AM JST
There’s my LOL moment for today. Cheers China!

这是我今天开怀大笑的时候。感谢中国!


NZ2011MAR. 25 2017 – 08:39AM JST
And at least in Japan people have free and easy access to information if they choose to look for it…

至少在日本当人们找信息时,他们有自由和轻松获取信息的途径


DisillusionedMAR. 25 2017 – 08:59AM JST
While I do agree that Japan should stop downplaying and denying the atrocities they committed during their imperial rule of Asia China should also stop exaggerating them.

我同意日本应该停止对他们在军国统治亚洲时犯下的暴行进行否认和轻描淡写。中国也应该停止夸大事实。


gokai_wo_manekuMAR. 25 2017 – 09:20AM JST
China does not have to worry. At my high school (mid 90s) the teachers introduced "supplementary material" to treat what Japan did in China. Complete with gory pictures that I still remember today.

中国不需要担心。在我上高中时(90年代中期),老师引用了“补充材料”来介绍日本对中国做了什么。 包括那些让我直到现在还能记起的血淋淋的图片。


Haaa NemuiMAR. 25 2017 – 09:21AM JST
From the people that brought you "The Nine Dash Line."

从那些带给你“九段线”的人的嘴里说出。

Seriously… if somebody mentions 400000 they’ll jump on it and deny any previous mention of 300000. It’s not about anything other than trying to make Japan look bad. The number shouldn’t matter as much as the fact that it happened at all.

认真的来讲。。。。。。如果某人提出40万,他们就会跳出来否认之前提到过30万。只是试图为了让日本看起来很糟糕。数字应该不重要,只要事情有发生过就好。


Peter WhiteMAR. 25 2017 – 09:42AM JST
I wrote paper on the Nanjing Massacre as an undergraduate (got HD). My research indicated that a census taken not long before the massacre showed there were approximately 250000 residents in Nanjing. It is clear from historical documents and eye-witness accounts that the Japanese Imperial Army while it undoubtedly carried out an horrific and unacceptable massacre of unarmed combatants and civilians did not kill the entire population of the city.

我作为一个大学生写过一篇关于南京大屠杀的论文(得到优异的成绩)。 我的研究表明在大屠杀开始前不久的一次人口普查中表明南京大约有25万居民。历史文档和目击者证词清楚的证明了尽管日本皇军毋庸置疑的实施了一场可怕的和令人难以接受的针对手无寸铁的士兵和平民的大屠杀,但并没有杀掉全城的人。

My studies indicated that while the figure of 40000 is definitely too low the figure of 300000 is far too high. The wartime tribunal figure of 142000 is likely to be closer to the actual figure.

我的研究表明尽管4万这个数字无疑太低了,但是30万的数字却太高了。战时法庭的14万2千的数字更有可能与实际数字相近。

That being said this incident which undoubtedly happened despite what some nationalist revisionists would have us believe was an appalling act of savagery. We must also try to remember however that it was committed in a time of war. Few if any still blame the Germans for the Holocaust – it was the policy of the Nazi Party which ruled the country. Similarly here this action was ordered by the Commanders of the Imperial Army in charge of the troops in Nanjing at the time. No one can or should expect Japan to continue apologising for it forever.

话虽如此,这确实是个骇人听闻的野蛮举动,尽管有些民族主义的修正主义者不让我们这么认为。但是我们也应该记住这个事件是发生在战争时期。很少有人依旧因为大屠杀而谴责德国-那是当时统治国家的纳粹党所颁布的政策。 这里相似的是行动是由当时统帅部队的皇军指挥官所下达的。没人会或者应该期望日本继续为那个事件永远道歉下去。


toshikoMAR. 25 2017 – 09:51AM JST
I expect. S Korea will join China very soon.

我预期。韩国会很快加入中国一方


StrangerlandMAR. 25 2017 – 09:54AM JST
My studies indicated that while the figure of 40000 is definitely too low the figure of 300000 is far too high. The wartime tribunal figure of 142000 is likely to be closer to the actual figure.

我的研究表明尽管4万这个数字无疑太低了,但是30万的数字却太高了。战时法庭的14万2千的数字更有可能与实际数字相近。

That being said this incident which undoubtedly happened despite what some nationalist revisionists would have us believe was an appalling act of savagery.

话虽如此,这确实是个骇人听闻的野蛮举动,尽管有些民族主义的修正主义者不让我们这么认为。

This is why it’s frustrating when either side gets hung up on the numbers. The fact is an appalling atrocity occurred and it shouldn’t be excused away by saying the numbers are too high or exaggerated by saying the numbers are too low. Instead they should say basically what you said. "Somewhere between 40000 and 300000 people were killed with the wartime tribunal at the time placing the numbers at 142000".

所以说当双方只是纠结于数字的多少时是令人失望的。事实是这个可怕的暴行确实发生过,不能说数字太高就被原谅,也不能说数字太低来夸大事实。相反,他们应该学学你的表述:被杀死的人数在4万到30万之间,当时的战时法庭认为是14.2万人。


DisillusionedMAR. 25 2017 – 10:01AM JST
the figure of 300000 is far too high. The wartime tribunal figure of 142000 is likely to be closer to the actual figure.

30万的数字太高了。战时法庭的14万2千的数字更有可能与实际数字相近。

I understand that China has exaggerated the numbers. However if you were to include those killed by the imperial army on their way to and leaving Nanjing the estimate of 300000 is probably not too far off the mark.

我知道中国夸大了数值。但是如果你算上日军前往和离开南京这一路上所杀死的人的话。,30万估算的人数大概就离实际不太远了。


smithinjapanMAR. 25 2017 – 10:02AM JST
OssanAmerica: you’re right that China is in no position to tell others what not to yeah given their own white-washing but it doesn’t mean they are not correct. They are. And unless you’re suggesting it’s okay Japan be like them you agree.

OssanAmerica: 你是对的,考虑到他们自己的洗白行为,中国确实无权对他人说教,但是这不意味着他们不正确。他们是正确的。除非你在暗示你认同日本这样做是可以接受的。


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